»SCOUT GONNA TAKE OVER

Discussion in 'Annihilation' started by Xpart, Apr 30, 2020.

  1. Xpart

    Xpart Quick Digit Member

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    Nerf Scout.

    Scout has always been the most common used and preferable class, which basically made the game unbalanced, as there're less people using the other different kits and makes them choose to use one kit only. Developers tried to fix this, they increased its price from 25.000 to 40.000 as well as made a delay for how many times you could grapple. This only change made well balance in the game, as more people prefer using different classes now, and find a better way to enjoy the game, they finally find it fair for all the less used kits, without a whole number of players use one class more often than other people do (just makes it more balanced!).

    But then, they dropped the price of scout by 25% (30.000 now), but I guess that didn't make much a difference and I shouldn't complain, but what's worth mentioning is that it's getting big buff after anni 3.0, and that is you would no longer get a cooldown to grapple AND you get a 5th upgrade, once unlocked, you no longer take fall damage.

    Like honestly this is obviously far op for the price of 30k considering as an annoying class to deal, and because of this:

    -Scout users can grapple for ever.
    -Travel hundreds of blocks through the map freely.
    -Reach enemy nexuses easily as well as come back and fight the same enemy they died to over and over again.
    -Climb tall mountains/structures.
    -Hook multiple times once fallen.
    -And the most annoying is they can easily get away from a fight that the other person they were fighting to worked really hard to kill him, considering him as a scout user he can always have speed I, move faster, can hit you with his grapple and give you slowness, hard to attack and impossible to combo.

    For the 5th upgrade, it's fine as it is, the devs would obviously make it much expensive than the previous upgrades, as you are gaining a really big advantage over others, which is taking no fall damage once so ever.

    Over all the scout kit would become more competitive to fight and can absolutely destroy any player's ingame progress (his gold mining progress, gear gathering, potion brewing etc), especially when it becomes unlockable only after 2 league upgrades, Silver then gold starting from bronze, and would eventually make the kit usable by many mid-game players and ruin the fun for those who didn't get the chance to buy it yet.

    What I'd suggest is higher the required league to be able to unlock it, or increase the price, turn the cooldown ability into an upgrade, or even make the upgrade itself special and can be unlockable by completing an achievement, here's some:


    -Kill 500 players before landing.
    -Travel 10.000 of blocks through the air.
    -Hook on the edge of the void while falling to it till your grapple's durability runs out.
    -Be the first person to take iron from 20 different maps's mid.
    (Requires to have scout ofc).

    Gimmi your thoughts y'all.
     
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  2. Angry945

    Angry945 Nimble Knuckle Member

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    Am I the only one who gets shitty hit reg when it comes to scouts? My hits don't even register 85% of the time i hit them.
     
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  3. Griffin3039

    Griffin3039 Megumi's Waifu Member

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    Most of the newer kits are far superior than scout anyways.
     
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  4. Mev0z

    Mev0z Addict Member

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    You really shouldn't








    Scout is the best
     
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  5. Awab4444

    Awab4444 Addict Member

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    I think Scouts are too OP for a balanced game, due to it being more overused than the Civilian class, to the point that I would prefer Squids over them.
     
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  6. Sean23

    Sean23 Journeyman Member

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    Yea no fall damage on scout is way too op.
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 30, 2020, Original Post Date: Apr 30, 2020 ---
    you can bungee jump with scout and won't die lool. Its gonna be crazy.
     
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  7. Xpart

    Xpart Quick Digit Member

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    Simply adding more kits to justify Scout's buffs is not a solution, it's still the iconic kit for Anni 1.0 and 2.0 and possibly even 3.0
    The way you and xph look at Anni is basically buff kits, nerf kits, add more stuff that make no sense in the game, bring back the old feeling because you can't have better stuff (You can if you have enough braincells) and to not balance the game and fix current issues with kits and overall gameplay. Do you still wonder why this game never changes? Invis Rush, OP rush, Farm, Rift rush, Transporter rush and that's all. Look at the bigger picture and you will have a long term gamemode that can attract new players aswell as old players by adding new features and not some random bs suggestions that you thought they were cool.
     
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  8. Griffin3039

    Griffin3039 Megumi's Waifu Member

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    I never said I'm ignoring your suggestion. I'm just telling you to look into perspective there are better kits which most new players will probably main. Yes, scout maybe an iconic kit for Anni 1 and 2, but because we felt that the new kits will most likely overpower most or possibly all the existing kits, its better to buff scout so people will still use it. It can be proposed that the new buff for scout to be temporary, but based on what I saw (e.g. Sumo vs Scout), it will most likely take a playerbase vote to pass.

    Assuming this post is a petition, and majority of actual Anni players agree with your suggestion, I will more than happy to forward your suggestion to xph.

    Edit: "Do you still wonder why this game never changes?", Anni 3.0, game will change.
    Maybe, I can agree that, the infinite durability is a bad idea (but it wasn't mine)
     
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  9. Fayznn

    Fayznn Journeyman Member

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    List of kits scout is useless against:
    • Chronos
    • Defender
    • Assassin
    • Orion (oml why is this not getting nerfed)
    • Pyro
    • Scorpio
    • Archer
    • Penguin
    • Berserker
    • Squid
    • Ion
    • Mage
    • Thor
    • Viper
    • Phantom
    + Even without these kits, with cooperating teammates you can mine to your heart's desire
     
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  10. Xpart

    Xpart Quick Digit Member

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    Having overpowered kits will make shitty kits more shittier, if this is the way you balance a gamemode then it will die sooner than Osama bin Laden. There are fundamental stuff that needs to be fixed before you start rushing coding more overpowered kits, you just proved yourself wrong, same issues will be there in anni 3.0 because, if Scout is the most used kit atm, then the new "overpowered kits" will be much much powerful since the huge ass buff Scout got.
     
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  11. HenryrocksMC

    HenryrocksMC Forum Master Member

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    This man is right. Scout is already an overpowered kit, and it has abilities that makes it more powerful than a "scout". The scout kit is the best pvp kit on anni, and regardless of new harry potter kits it will stay that way. Esspecially when you remove the nerfs and cut the price.
     
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  12. Griffin3039

    Griffin3039 Megumi's Waifu Member

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    and no one cares abt mutant ...
     
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  13. HenryrocksMC

    HenryrocksMC Forum Master Member

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    Because It's not overpowered. If that was the case then this post would've been about mutant.
     
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  14. saavi29

    saavi29 Member Member

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    watch scout litterally consume frog. scout is now a manuverable version of frog.
     
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  15. NinetyNine

    NinetyNine Jr Developer Member

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    Scout only has 3 upgrades. The upgrade that gives you an additional x1.25 damage, and the upgrade that gives the enemy slowness has been removed.

    Scout will be discussed after 3.0 is released. Hopefully this would lessen people that doesn't like the "new" scout. :)
     
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