»[Factions] DarkNator has reported a player.

Discussion in 'Player Reports' started by DarkNator, Sep 16, 2019.

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  1. DarkNator

    DarkNator Member Member

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    Name of offense: reach hax

    Name of offender: keyword

    Date and time: Just now

    Evidence #1: https://imgur.com/gallery/U8n0aph

    Evidence #2:

    YouTube URL:

    Description/Explaining: the video is pretty self explanatory. 7 block reach hacks. I posted 3 different angles and his pov as well.
     
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  2. Larsmarc

    Larsmarc Faction Head-Admin Member

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    Hey there,

    I've watched your proof a couple of times and it looks super sketchy but we can't just trust your replay program 100%, and we don't know the player his ping. If you have more proof that isn't from your replay program send it to me asap so we can handle with this report or this player ;)

    -Lars
     
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  3. DarkNator

    DarkNator Member Member

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    Since when is replay program “super sketchy”? I have a lot of footage but it’s all on replay. Lol what other proof do you need? it’s all on replay. How else should I Record?
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 16, 2019, Original Post Date: Sep 16, 2019 ---
    Bro LOL you got to be kidding me replay can tell you the players ping by pressing tab.you should read that sometime.....https://www.replaymod.com/forum/thread/2273
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 16, 2019 ---
    So what’s sketchy about it now? Look at the ping and video in real time. https://imgur.com/gallery/reaMDii
     
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  4. Martin1

    Martin1 Nightmare AKA Detective Member

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    Hey @DarkNator,

    The faction staff team and I have already reviewed your evidence
    However, we cannot really seem to come to a conclusion to be honest

    We will take a look at it once again, and hopefully come to a conclusion this time

    At this exact moment, it indeed does look like the player was cheating
    However, we're trying to confirm how accurate the mod is

    The link that you had provided will definitely help us with that

    We will come up with a final statement, and/or conclusion by tomorrow this time
    As first we have to take a look at every possible situation, and/or explanations
    And especially confirm how accurate the Replay Mod is regarding this

    Additional to that, it was only one hit, a very much out ranged one
    And it was also the first one, which is why it couldnt have been due to the player's ping
    You have already also proved that the player was not lagging at all, and actually had a good ping

    In case you have any more evidence, feel free to share it with us
    It may always help us with the decision,

    Thank you for reporting though
    We really do appreciate it!

    Have a great rest of your day

    -Martin
     
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  5. DarkNator

    DarkNator Member Member

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    Yes I have a lot more footage I will upload.
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 17, 2019, Original Post Date: Sep 16, 2019 ---
    Martin here is some more footage. If you need more let me know I have about 3 hours of gameplay from that day. I’ll just send with my cellphone because it’s faster and it seemed pointless to render a detailed mp4 only for it to be called “sketchy” :-/ lol. Anyways here is the footage have a good rest of your day as well! - HackoNator

    https://imgur.com/gallery/wkDOZhg
     
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  6. Martin1

    Martin1 Nightmare AKA Detective Member

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    Hey @DarkNator,

    The factions staff team and I have reviewed the evidence once again
    I've even gotten even more staff members involved this time, including Elise, the Server Manager

    We've come to a conclusion that we SHOULD NOT use Replay Mod based evidence for hacks
    As sometimes, it may bug out, or mess up the entity position, even the Developer himself has said this:
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    In the first video, Keyword had somewhat jumped,
    It wasnt really a proper jump, it was more of a bow - boost
    Which I would assume should actually count as somewhat of a jump
    And thats probably why it looked like he could've been far away from you

    And in the second video, both of you were in a water, between someone's walls
    He was below you, and you of course above him in this case, which gives him an advantage

    This type of situation would give your enemy the ''Lowground advatange''
    As his hitboxes would be far down for you, and yours would be closer to him
    And therefore, I would like to point out a little bit of a correction to one of the photos:

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    In this case, you do not count the distance from his feet, he's not hitting you with those
    Instead, you count the distance from his sword, which is pointed upwards, to your feet
    As he's hitting your feet, with his sword, and of course not with his feet

    However tho, afterwards, there was few more hits
    And the final hit indeed did look a little bit sketchy

    The reason why the final hit might have looked sketchy could've been because you somewhat lagged out for a second there
    Your knockback did not seem to be normal for a second, and/or a hit there, so I assume the last hit could've been delayed knockback

    Anyhow, we have come to a conclusion TO NOT ACCEPT Replay Mod based evidence for hacks
    As I have already mentioned, the entity position may bug out, and there are many other aspects that matter with the decision

    From now on, we will only accept Replay Mod based evidence for ''Fly Abuse''

    You may download a proper recording software if you would like to report any and all possible cheaters
    As in that case, the entity position will be much more accurate in the video recorded

    The most basic recording software is actually ''Bandicam''
    It is really easy to use, you may download it and try it out I guess

    The report has been denied!

    Thank you for reporting though
    We really do appreciate it!

    -Martin
     
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