»Remove Grapple durability on Scout class.

Discussion in 'Annihilation' started by Mev0z, Jun 18, 2018.

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Should durability on the Grapple get removed? pls say yes xd

  1. Remove durability

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  2. Don't remove cuz i'm bad

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  1. Mev0z

    Mev0z Addict Member

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    Since annihilation 2.0 released a lot of good stuff happened FeelsGoodMan and nerfs! FeelsBadMan, Scout nerf on the other hand is so BAD. PepoThink
    Using the grapple and taking fall damage is doubled or something, which is fine we can deal with that Minglee, but durability/cooldown on the grapple is the worst nerf I've ever seen it's BS PepeREE, just remove the durability on the Grapple of scout class , Scout has already been nerfed a lot like it's 40,000xp to buy it, taking more fall damage and not being able to grapple from water, diamond armor gives you slowness, and the worst thing is DURABILITY!! Wot m8!!? WutFace

    Dear @Jonodonozym and @TheCatsKing have a great chat together and decide whether you should remove durability or not.Kappa



    Just remove it PLEASE! PepeHands
     
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  2. GamerCLOL

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  3. rewardedcarton

    rewardedcarton Frog Member

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    Don't remove it otherwise will be just as overpowered as it was. The whole point of this was to nerf it, which it has done. Deal with it.
     
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  4. Mev0z

    Mev0z Addict Member

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    Wearing diamond armor gives you slowness but we don't care we want grapple durability to be removed

     
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  5. Vurow

    Vurow Broken Staff Member Admin

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    Here are the options
    • Make it an upgrade where the cooldown is faster or the dura goes down by 2 instead of 4
    • Completly make it so the dura goes down by 2
    • Make the cooldown faster
    • Make the kit cheaper
    • Better upgrades that make up for this
     
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  6. TheCatsKing

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    Just so you know, IF we agree on buffing Scout, it will never be like old day's Scout. We may, however, buff it somewhere but i don't think we would remove the durability if we do.
    I think a nice way of buffing it is making it so Scout doesn't have to be out of combat to charge the rod, and buffing its auto-repair rate.
     
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  7. DappyKape

    DappyKape Member Member

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    I have owned scout and almost all its upgrades and to be fair it doesnt make much of a difference. In the past when there is no durability, more than half the players were using scout and that there were no variety in other kits used.
    Another thing is that you are using the kit wrongly. Scout is not about spamming your grapple to move around quickly, then that would make the cat kit completely useless. You have to have discipline and making strategic moves that can effectively escape trouble.
     
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  8. Mev0z

    Mev0z Addict Member

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    Spunds like the new 1.9+ combat system but in the Grapple. NotLikeThis

    Disgusting PepoThink
     
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  9. WetzuXY

    WetzuXY Nimble Knuckle Member

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    No. Too overpowered
     
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    YohanaSr Ancient Poster Member

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  11. superboy12345 [Nub]

    superboy12345 [Nub] Forum Veteran Member

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    Disable grapple when under combat tag. Compensate with high repair rate.

    Scouts are supposed to scout. When engaging in PvP situations, they shouldn't have a scouts swiftness.
     
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  12. TheCatsKing

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    Not really, you can just save a few uses on your grapple in case there's some emergency; If someone gets to you and your grapple is at 0 uses, then you can't complain if you don't get to escape, you're supposed to use it wisely not to spam it
     
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  13. Aiviz

    Aiviz Newbie Member

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    I don't have scout, but durability on grapple sounds like the worst idea lol
     
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  14. Mev0z

    Mev0z Addict Member

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    IT IS THE WORST THING IN ANNI 2.0 NotLikeThis
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 25, 2018, Original Post Date: Jun 25, 2018 ---
    TheCatsKing JUST REMOVE IT FFS REEEEEEEEEEEE PepeREE
     
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  15. 210577

    210577 Enthusiast Member

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    How about these 3 changes...

    1) Grapple takes 4->8 damage/use (NO, DON'T COMPLAIN YET)

    2) Soulbound Grapple has x2 repair rate when not in combat (to make up for the first nerf)

    3) Any fishing rod works as a grapple while using Scout

    This means you gotta take the time to make more grapples (or buy Unbreaking) in order for you to farm. If you don't, Scout is downright trash, but if you do, it should be a LOT better than the way it is now.
     
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  16. TheCatsKing

    TheCatsKing ★★★★★ Member

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    That would feel worse, trust me, Scout players want their op grapple NOW and NOW! or RIOT!
    Seriously, they won't spend time to get a new grapple, they'll waste time trying to bribe me for Scout buffs
     
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  17. Jonodonozym

    Jonodonozym Plugin Developer Member

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    Not going to happen sorry. We did give it a little compensating buff on release by giving speed I in iron armor.

    Scout had serious unbalance issues in 1.0. It's better off to have a few under-powered kits and 30 other balanced kits than a few over-powered ones and 20 kits that never get played.
    Tho tbh it's still one of the best kits.
     
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