»short1der/faction toxicity/rules

as i said in jojo's post thread, his post is the perfect explanation to be seen by all players and most important the staff existing nowdays that they think they're fcking policemen in prison and needs to apply more and more rules for the faction community, which is the most toxic on every server existing ( archon cosmic saico ) these servers are ofc more succeed than guildcraft and they got the rules only if u are been racist/staff disrespecting/sexual harrasment u're getting muted they dont care about caps/spam/provoking/swearing because of course that's a big part of factions. You need to realise factions are not like survival beeing peacefull and happy in chat factions is a toxic community not only on guildcraft as i said but on every other more popular server i've played on.I am maybe gonna get hated on that post but i am sure there are people that will support it and understand it even some staff i believe. U gotta understand as i said in the up ^ paragraph u need to realise FACTIONS are not same community as skyblock or prison or survival u like it or not u can;'t change it by banning people for toxicity in lowkey standarts of course. should be bannable only if someone is toxic like this kid here > https://gyazo.com/5c1b8206e220e10886dd6199f5890d12 not just casual provoking

RULES: how i think it should be/some staff are muting for less than the following
SPAM: mutable = 4+ line the same sentence
FLOODING: more than 5 letters e.x LOOOOOL+ that muteable.
PROVOKING: shouldn't be mutable in a lowkey way like '' L u lost koth noobs'' L i dropped you kid ez iv
PROVOKING: shoould be mutable when 2 or more facs involved are low key swearing and having irony in their language for 40+ min not just 15-20 min arguing in chat.
SWEARING/HARRASMENT: swearing/harrasment not mutable when it's like that >''u're fat'' u're pu.ssy staying in your base'' '' u're dumb/idiot .
SWEARING/HARRASMENT: mutable when it's like that > u're re.tard/u're au.tistic/syndrom down kid/faggot.
RACISM: stay as it is now f*ck racist people btw.
P.S about the IRL/privacy exposing threads like posting IRL pictures or information should be a perm ban from forums.

Dear @ShyGuy224 nothing much but banning people for beeing toxic on factions will make gc die even more as it is already and more people that are experienced with factions not only on gc but on other servers too they can accept that attitude because they know it's a big big part on all existing factions servers and what? u think if u dont mute them for beeing toxic people gonna leave? NO NO why is saico and cosmic big servers? and they dont even mute for spam/flood/swearing they only mute for racism/staff disrespect or major toxicity like this > https://gyazo.com/5c1b8206e220e10886dd6199f5890d12 nothing else to say


-peace out

 

First of all, you legit added 1 line extra to spamming, the rest of the "new" rules you stated are already in place. Some mods are just more strict about certain things than others. Also, bans should be given out to the people that expose people on the forums without consent the other kinds of toxicity should only be mutable, unless it gets to a certain point where an admin will have to use his judgement.

 

You basically changed nothing expect for 1 more line in spamming. We do not mute for "L ez koth" or "you fat and stupid".

 

i said in my post if u read '' people leaking irl info/pics should be perm banned on forums

also about the rules some staff are muting for this > LOOOL
so please dom u already know there is a problem with staff dont try to show up smarter

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 25, 2017, Original Post Date: Oct 25, 2017 ---

trust me some mods do too lazy to find the screenies

 

This isn't anything that isn't already in the rules, I don't make up new rules. Everything I do is already stated in the guidelines...

 

u legit talked about bans and ''greater punishments'' i didn't make this post to argue with you just to let you know what's going on gc faction community and other servers also about the guildline not many staff muting for the right thing other staff muting for 4 letters flood other mods mutting for 3 lines spam that's why i made this post

not to argue with you or anyone dont take it that way

thanks

 

+1 it's factions lol, they have to allow some unallowed rules ✌

 

Just to be clear, this is what I said about bans:
- Disrespecting our staff by trash talking them all the time about them doing their job or their mutes may result in a ban. This is already in the guidelines. The ban time would be 3 days unless specified by a higher up.
- Leaking personal info, which should result in a perm ban. Of course, this would probably be taken care of by a higher up.
- About "greater punishments", this would be in extreme cases, such as your screenshot, or if its very consistent. I wouldn't do this without assistance from a higher up.

 

Dude you said this in your original post where you complained about toxic behaivour. "If these hour long provoking sessions continue in factions public chat, all involved will be muted for 6 hours for provoking. I have already warned all of you players involved in factions public chat. This is you final warning. I'm not saying provoking isn't okay on factions, but when it results in an hour long provoking session, it is clearly out of hand and needs to be dealt with." Since when is this in the guidelines and why will you stop hour long provoking sessions because it seems toxic so what if someone really hates it they can always use /ignore. You are clearly making a new rule here which is not needed. New players dont go because of this if anyone is leaving its old players because factions needs a reset.

 

@IQuackerHD I see what you mean that its ok to be toxic and provoking since its part of the factions competition. Roasting in public chat is fine as long as you stay in the limits but i think what Short1der was triggered about is the fact that it brought in 3-4 new forum post. 1 that was directly criticizing Waryas and creating huge unnecessary drama. In the end, it wasn't who is the best factions... it was who has the best roast so that they can get the most ratings out of it TBH :/

@ShyGuy224 am I completely off ? xD

 

Maybe I Agree

 

Targeting small and weaker factions on forums is childish but if it goes out of hands the thread should be simply locked with a warning ffs.

 

thats what i aam telling u that provoking shouldnt be mutable if its fac vs fac not fac vs staff it shouldnt be mutable even if its 3 hours long u need to put it in your head its a part of facs gameplaying

 

yep thats mypoint irl pic and info = perm ban on foroms but about provoking shouldnt be mutsble if its fac vs fac doesn't matter how long it provoking will keep going in chat

 

As someone who has been staff on GC factions and faction dimensions (mod, helper and admin) on and off since 2014, i'm gonna leave my opinion here and say that I believe we should all agree to disagree; Don't get me wrong though, even though I think some toxicity is acceptable, this server will always have very young players (who are often quite impressionable and/or often have parents who probably don't want them reading toxic stuff) and if you can't control your fingers from typing into a minecraft server chat then you should probably go outside and get some fresh air. If a staff member believes enough is enough and that the provoking is getting overhand (insults may be getting stronger/worse, etc.) get over it and learn to control yourself, it's actually not as hard as you think. Also this is not the reason that "other servers are more successful than GC" as you are saying, there is almost no correlation at all in my eyes.

And I hope me saying this gives a good perspective on this entire "staff care too much" idea, i've been just as toxic in the past 3-4 years on GC just as everyone else has; heck i've even been demoted and perm banned a solid 3 or 4 times now. Yes, provoking is something I would do all the time because to me I didn't care enough about being toxic, but when I would get muted for taking things too far I for sure learned if not already knew how to control any urges to go off on a keyboard. Anyways rules aren't going to be changing over this, especially considering most of the rules you suggested already exist / are hardly any different from what you said.

 

agreed with you but the part about changing rules that i made in my post it's cause some staff are not muting for what they should mute or they will mute for dumb shit which are not even muteable

also, as u said u've been toxic in old gc days, but let me ask you since u were playing 3 years ago and u claimed u were toxic. Was gc factions so stricly the old days? i dont think so if u remember 3 years ago when a fight was going on chat for 40+ minutes admins/mods didn't care, and? they didn't care and it also didn't effect factions player ammount (250 active people 3 years ago) so the toxicity ''problem'' as short claims it's not a big problem in my opinion. I hope you remember these days and actually understand what's my point is with the post i made

 

I'm just gonna drop this in here, for people who believe I am simply making up rules.


@IQuackerHD

 

noone said u made rules but as your post says u want to apply for more strick rules and '' greater '' punishmentns

 

@Rabascm do somthing please ;_:?

 

Allow me to answer, Yes it was, Infact it was Alot stricter... the Ruleset now are alot more Lenient than it was in the past, Back 3 years ago, Being muted for "LOOOL" or any capsed words was common, Now we have a ruleset saying 4 Capsed words or 15 capsed letters (i do believe that is what it currently is)

Back 3 years ago there was a "No swearing" ruleset, if you swore even if its non directed, you would get muted without question... Now we are freely allowed to swear aslong as we don't overstep our boundaries and direct it towards other people