»[Global] Foreign Language Suggestion

Hello. Here yet again to suggestion something that is a big topic. Here I will give you some background on how I believe it will help the server.

Suggestion:
This is more like a sub-suggestion. I want to remove something from the server, not add anything. Foreign language has been a problem for people like me. Not a negative thing. But being bilingual isn't easy when you are use to speak both languages, (English/Spanish). Instead of an instant mute, remove the rule completely or add a documentation/warning system in its place.

How Will It Help / How Has It Hurt The Server?:
I have gone as far as reporting myself for speaking Spanish, mainly because I don't believe playing 'hide and seek' with the staff is productive. Having staff hear from someone else, via the forums reports, that I was breaking a rule by speaking Spanish, while I was just trying to help a lad who wouldn't have had a chance (All he knew was Spanish), seems like a waste of staffs time. What would you have done? A 2 hour mute is nothing compared to saving this lads GC experience. He may have quit due to the mute he didn't get.

What I am saying is that it wouldn't hurt removing this rule. Have the players feel free. Loosen the chains and make GuildCraft step up it's game to player satisfaction.

* A poll will / has been added. Vote based on how you feel about this topic. If the vote is positive, then great. If it is negative please tell me why you dislike it and how my suggestions can improve.

Thanks,
SilentChad

 

Ah, this rule is 50/50 in aspects of it being good, and it being bad. I find this very controversial to talk about due to the differing opinions people have upon it.

The Positives:

• Chat is easier to handle and read - less distractions.
• Knowledge of what everyone is talking about, so no one is breaking the rules.
• Staff can easily help out people who have questions or queries.
• Chat would be a complete mess if it wasn't in place.

The Negatives:

• Discrimination within languages - classed as Xenophobic and Racist.
• Harassment towards Staff who are only implementing the rules (This does happen a lot)
• Bad first impressions on GuildCraft - would put someone against coming back to play.

Imagine this situation:

The rule is lifted, and people can speak their own language. For English-speaking staff members like myself, I have no clue what people could be saying. Someone could be advertising in their own language, threatening someone or talking bad about a member of staff. In this situation, they wouldn't be punished unless I knew exactly what they were talking about. This wouldn't exactly be fair, right? You could say it in English and face being muted, or say it in another language and recieve no consequences.

There is a warning and muting system in place for those newer players, and when the chat is calm and chill, I tend to go on Google Translate and message them in their own language to speak only English in the global chat. If the chat is busy (Let's take PracticePvP for example) - the chat itself would need to be focused more on for the accusations, flooding, spamming than just messaging a person in their native language to speak English. I would rather focus on the chat more than focus on just advising one person to avoid a mute, may seem harsh but that is what I prefer.

Changing from one language to another also takes time within busy chats, and players expect staff to always be active and focused to answer questions and help. I mainly do Google Translate around Creative due to it being chill (and a lil dead) and nighttime on Skyblock as these chats aren't as lively and fast paced as they normally are.

Taking what I stated above, I am in favour of the rule. But of course, these are just my interpretations upon it.

 

Take the first bad point you shared,it pretty much promotes racism.
Would players enjoy playing on a server that promotes such stuff in your opinion?
Ironic it has the rule "no racism",when this rule is racist itself.
Pathetic.
Also,having as a reason "chat is hard to manage with all these languages/it is eastern for staff" is bullshit,GC has been 4 years without this language,and everything regarding chat just went really good,staff giving no shit about other languages and letting them be.
The only point that I agree on how this rule should stay is that players can easily bypass the filter in different languages,that's why I will make a suggestion now.

 

I'd just like to say thank you for your comment, as I was hoping someone would point out the flaws of what I have said. I've only being playing on GC frequently since Early November, so I am still new to partaking within a server. I wasn't playing when the rule was introduced, which is why I never knew how the server managed before it was introduced, only by people's opinions and such. That is why my view is flawed as I only know one side of GC when the rule is being used.
So thank you for pointing that out, as I stated, these are only my interpretations.

 

I do agree,that's why I made a suggestion,which honestly,could really help.
Really.

 

This would be useful if there were any staff members who speaks other than English but overall OK I agree with it.

 

https://www.guildcraft.org/threads/...have-so-many-players.55557/page-2#post-326849
Wasn't this alrdy discussed?Still everyone comes on forum to complain they cant speak english*(even though every school has it as it's primary foreign language)*but still i think this issue was discussed since (maybe)the begining of the server,with that being said since the begining till now has anything changed about it?No,the server isn't losing any players at all quiet decent player base,and still even if there will be 1000 more posts about this axed wont change his mind about this rule

 

This is why I agree with the "English only" rule:

I didn't realize this guy was IP advertising at first because I only speak English. Only with the help of Google Translate and people online who spoke other languages was I able to identify that he was IP advertising, and that took a bit of time to figure out.

 

What do you mean "Bad first impressions"?
A bad impression is instantly getting muted for 2 hours for speaking up
That is faaaar more likely to destroy their experience then seeing some bad language(which is rare for them to come and see it in their exact language)
Also CentrixPVP allows all languages and that server used to do FAAAAR better than GC
Jailmine had all languages allowed,it had so many players,now they added the english only rule and they barely get 100 players
Also i had an argument with a staff member on skyblock yesterday he just said "Its not staffs fault if they dont knoe english,we shouldnt waste our time trying to make them understand their rules"

 

Hey,

I agree with SilentChad, but after the removal of the "English only" rule, Guild-Craft should implement a Translation plugin (example:https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/translate.11784/).

I do believe we should keep aspects of the "English only" rule though. Like, in staff requirements so communicating outside of the Guild-Craft servers won't be frustrating and be swell.

- Runetide